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Judith Pahl Palmer
 
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:Have you tried looking on the census and/or looking for her death certificate? [[User:M-Explorer|M-Explorer]] ([[User talk:M-Explorer|talk]]) 05:04, 19 January 2020 (MST)
  
 
== Info on Great-grandmother that was in Central Statde Hospital- Nashville ==
 
== Info on Great-grandmother that was in Central Statde Hospital- Nashville ==
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Mary Nave  (navema@comcast.net)
 
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:Here is what we have on that hospital [[Nashville State Hospital]]. You should be able to find information on the hospital in both the state and local archives (I.E. historical societies). While you may find some stuff online, your best bet to finding what you are looking for will be going in person. [[User:M-Explorer|M-Explorer]] ([[User talk:M-Explorer|talk]]) 05:04, 19 January 2020 (MST)
  
 
== GG-Grandmother in St. Vincent's Insane Assylum from about 1881 to 1900 ==
 
== GG-Grandmother in St. Vincent's Insane Assylum from about 1881 to 1900 ==
  
I found the probate records for a guardianship to be granted to her son.  The date was after her husband had died.  Are there any records that are able to be accessed about this institution?  Thank you for all of your work on this project.
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I found the probate records for a guardianship to be granted to her son.  The date was after her husband had died.  Are there any records that are able to be accessed about this institution?  Thank you for all of your work on this project. This institution was in St. Louis MO
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:That is a hard question. It depends on what they did with their old records. Some places kept and sent their records to either the central state archives or local archives. While others destroyed their old records after setting around untouched after nearly a hundred years. The strongest bet to finding what you seek would be to contact the institution itself, which is still active, and asking where those records were moved to if they still exist. [[User:M-Explorer|M-Explorer]] ([[User talk:M-Explorer|talk]]) 05:04, 19 January 2020 (MST)
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== Info on great grandfather in institution ==
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I found my great grandfather on the 1940 census for the LaCrosse County Insane Asylum. His name is Bernt Tweet- or sometimes he goes by Gustav Bernt Tweet. There is little else about him that I can find. I am trying to find out how he got there - why he was institutionalized.
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Any information you can give me or point me in the right direction, I would greatly appreciate.
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Thank you.
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Joan Lawson (joanelawson@gmail.com)
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:I would try and get in contact with the LaCrosse County historical society/archive and see if they know where those records went if they still exist. [[User:M-Explorer|M-Explorer]] ([[User talk:M-Explorer|talk]]) 05:04, 19 January 2020 (MST)
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Thank you.  I will try that.
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Joan Lawson
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==  Patient in a State Hospital ==
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In 1910 there was a lady by the name of Anna Oldenhoff, She was a patient there. She was 44 years old and was married. My question is how long was she there? and Do you know where she might be buried? Her husbands name was Christian Oldenhoff. Also would like to know, if possible, why she was there ?I am putting together a family tree and have nothing for the Oldenhoff side I'm at a dead end here with her and her husband. But I"m only asking about her, cause she was in the asylum. Would appreciate anything you could give me on Anna OLdenhoff
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Sincerely, Theresa Oldenhoff
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:What hospital was she a patient of? As far as where she is buried, you first need to work out when she died by looking at the census and death records. After that, it is a question of if her family claimed her body. If so, she might have been buried in a cemetery where they lived at the time. If they did not, they she might have been buried in the hospital's cemetery. As far as why she was sent there, that is going to be a real tough question to answer as there is a strong chance her records may not exist anymore and what might still be around may be very vague. [[User:M-Explorer|M-Explorer]] ([[User talk:M-Explorer|talk]]) 05:04, 19 January 2020 (MST)
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== Family member in Waukesha County Asylum ==
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I'm doing a family tree and I can't find anything on Anna Oldenhoff, except in the 1910 census, that she is in the Waukesha County Asylum, She was 44 and says that she is married. Any information you could give me would be appreciated. I'm at a block with her and her husband, both were my great- grandparents. Nobody is alive to tell me anything. Please advise. - Theresa Oldenhoff
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:Well, sadly online research will only take you so far. The last avenues online would be to try and see what the death record indexes would say. Beyond that, if you want to know more, you will most likely have to travel to the Waukesha County historical society or the state archives. Though, be prepared to not find all the information you want. Records from that time don't always survive. [[User:M-Explorer|M-Explorer]] ([[User talk:M-Explorer|talk]]) 02:40, 28 January 2020 (MST)
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== asylum projects genealogical requests ==
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Looking for information regarding my Grandmother Mary Bell Poston (Mosier) 5/28/1881 - 4/27/1967. She was institutionalized in Massillon State Hospital, Ohio  from 1932 until her death in 1967. - Poston192
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:Well, it looks like the institution was closed so the question will be where its records went and how much of its much older records still exist. Your best bet would be to try the Ohio state archives first. See what they have of that institution. Then if you cannot find the records there that you seek, then I would try the local historical society that encompasses where the institution was active. Note: there's a good chance you won't find much online and will have to go there in person. Also, based on the date she died I would guess that you will run into HIPPA laws which means you will have to jump through some legal hoops to get access to those records. [[User:M-Explorer|M-Explorer]] ([[User talk:M-Explorer|talk]]) 05:40, 21 March 2020 (MDT)
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== Burials at Mount Hope Retreat in Baltimore Maryland in 1913 ==
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I've discovered that my great great grandmother, Sarah Jennie Lynch Landon was confined to Mount Hope Retreat from shortly after the birth of her last child in 1884 until her death in 1913.  Her husband predeceased her and she was abandoned by her surviving children shortly after he died.  I do have her death certificate, however it does not list any location for burial.  So I am assuming that she would have been buried by the Sisters.  Can anybody tell me if there still is any cemetery standing that would have been used by Mount Hope Retreat in Baltimore Maryland in 1913.  Unfortunately her death certificate does not even list a funeral home so I cannot even search by those records. I have confirmed that she was not buried with her husband in Reisterstown.
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:I wish I had an answer to your question. However, I live in New York and can only give you advice from afar. My suggestion would be to do some local sleuthing in person. You can go about it two ways. One, you could go to where the institution stood and look at the area and see if you can find a cemetery there yourself. Two, you can contact the local historical society and pose them the question. Ask if they knew where Mount Hope buried their pauper dead. There's a good chance they might know. [[User:M-Explorer|M-Explorer]] ([[User talk:M-Explorer|talk]]) 05:45, 21 March 2020 (MDT)
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== Looking for a great aunt "Maud Hageman" who was at Mendocino hospital. ==
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She was a school teacher and had a nervous breakdown. She was committed to Talmage in the late 1880's to 1890's.
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Thanks Debbie
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== My grandfather was listed on 1940 census at a patient at Wichita State Hospital in Wichita Falls, Texas ==
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I am trying to find any information on my grandfather, Lonnie David Jones.  He was born in Sherman, Texas on November 20, 1893.
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He was shown as a patient at the Wichita State Hospital on the 1940 census.  His death certificate shows him dying in the hospital on July 22, 1954.
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Any information is appreciated. Why was he in the hospital?  How long was he there?  Any relatives listed?
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Thank you for taking your time to help. Rebecca Lord (Rebecca_lord@msn.com)
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== Margaret Koch Fleck committed to Laureano village (Laurelton State Village), a state institution in Laurelton Pennsylvania in 1948 ==
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Her children were put into foster care and one is still alive and seeking information. She was admitted in February / March 1948. I'm trying to figure out when she was released or transferred to the Hollidaysburg State Hospital where she died in 1964.
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== finding record ==
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Hello
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Does anyone know how to access old information and records from Warren State Hospital. I am interested in a great grandmother named Minnie Cooper Walker, who was there from 1910 to 1940
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== Charlotte Tucker Gibson St John, NB ==
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I am looking for my great-great grandmother's lineage. She was born in NB and died 7 Jan 1901 in Saint John, St. John, New Brunswick, in the asylum. She was the wife of William Gibson, and mother to 12 children, including my great grandfather, George H (Oracho) Gibson.
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== Found my Grandfather in the 1910 Census in St Joseph Ward 2,Buchanan, Missouri, USA ==
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I am trying to find information on why my Grandfather is shown as a Patient in St. Joseph State Hospital. I understand the State Hospital is closed and wondered if there is a way to get information on why he was there.
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Sheryl Peterson

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Finding Relative In Insitution[edit]

I found my aunt in Wisconsin Colony and Training School State Institution-Mentally Deficient and Epileptic on a census for 1940. She was 7 years old. She was from Racine, Wisconsin. Her name is Dorothy Mae Hamann born August 8, 1932. Her parents were Earl and Theresa Hamann. I am trying to find out information as to her status, when she died and anything about her. I am hoping you can send me in the right direction.

Thank you,

Judith Pahl Palmer judithlpalmer@outlook.com

Have you tried looking on the census and/or looking for her death certificate? M-Explorer (talk) 05:04, 19 January 2020 (MST)

Info on Great-grandmother that was in Central Statde Hospital- Nashville[edit]

"Hello. I was hoping someone might be able to give me info on this hospital and where to look for information if known. As for Hippa, my relatives leading up to her have passed on so i'm hoping that will not be an issue. Thanks in advance for any info you can give me."

Mary Nave (navema@comcast.net)

Here is what we have on that hospital Nashville State Hospital. You should be able to find information on the hospital in both the state and local archives (I.E. historical societies). While you may find some stuff online, your best bet to finding what you are looking for will be going in person. M-Explorer (talk) 05:04, 19 January 2020 (MST)

GG-Grandmother in St. Vincent's Insane Assylum from about 1881 to 1900[edit]

I found the probate records for a guardianship to be granted to her son. The date was after her husband had died. Are there any records that are able to be accessed about this institution? Thank you for all of your work on this project. This institution was in St. Louis MO

That is a hard question. It depends on what they did with their old records. Some places kept and sent their records to either the central state archives or local archives. While others destroyed their old records after setting around untouched after nearly a hundred years. The strongest bet to finding what you seek would be to contact the institution itself, which is still active, and asking where those records were moved to if they still exist. M-Explorer (talk) 05:04, 19 January 2020 (MST)

Info on great grandfather in institution[edit]

I found my great grandfather on the 1940 census for the LaCrosse County Insane Asylum. His name is Bernt Tweet- or sometimes he goes by Gustav Bernt Tweet. There is little else about him that I can find. I am trying to find out how he got there - why he was institutionalized. Any information you can give me or point me in the right direction, I would greatly appreciate. Thank you. Joan Lawson (joanelawson@gmail.com)

I would try and get in contact with the LaCrosse County historical society/archive and see if they know where those records went if they still exist. M-Explorer (talk) 05:04, 19 January 2020 (MST)

Thank you. I will try that. Joan Lawson

Patient in a State Hospital[edit]

In 1910 there was a lady by the name of Anna Oldenhoff, She was a patient there. She was 44 years old and was married. My question is how long was she there? and Do you know where she might be buried? Her husbands name was Christian Oldenhoff. Also would like to know, if possible, why she was there ?I am putting together a family tree and have nothing for the Oldenhoff side I'm at a dead end here with her and her husband. But I"m only asking about her, cause she was in the asylum. Would appreciate anything you could give me on Anna OLdenhoff Sincerely, Theresa Oldenhoff

What hospital was she a patient of? As far as where she is buried, you first need to work out when she died by looking at the census and death records. After that, it is a question of if her family claimed her body. If so, she might have been buried in a cemetery where they lived at the time. If they did not, they she might have been buried in the hospital's cemetery. As far as why she was sent there, that is going to be a real tough question to answer as there is a strong chance her records may not exist anymore and what might still be around may be very vague. M-Explorer (talk) 05:04, 19 January 2020 (MST)

Family member in Waukesha County Asylum[edit]

I'm doing a family tree and I can't find anything on Anna Oldenhoff, except in the 1910 census, that she is in the Waukesha County Asylum, She was 44 and says that she is married. Any information you could give me would be appreciated. I'm at a block with her and her husband, both were my great- grandparents. Nobody is alive to tell me anything. Please advise. - Theresa Oldenhoff

Well, sadly online research will only take you so far. The last avenues online would be to try and see what the death record indexes would say. Beyond that, if you want to know more, you will most likely have to travel to the Waukesha County historical society or the state archives. Though, be prepared to not find all the information you want. Records from that time don't always survive. M-Explorer (talk) 02:40, 28 January 2020 (MST)

asylum projects genealogical requests[edit]

Looking for information regarding my Grandmother Mary Bell Poston (Mosier) 5/28/1881 - 4/27/1967. She was institutionalized in Massillon State Hospital, Ohio from 1932 until her death in 1967. - Poston192

Well, it looks like the institution was closed so the question will be where its records went and how much of its much older records still exist. Your best bet would be to try the Ohio state archives first. See what they have of that institution. Then if you cannot find the records there that you seek, then I would try the local historical society that encompasses where the institution was active. Note: there's a good chance you won't find much online and will have to go there in person. Also, based on the date she died I would guess that you will run into HIPPA laws which means you will have to jump through some legal hoops to get access to those records. M-Explorer (talk) 05:40, 21 March 2020 (MDT)

Burials at Mount Hope Retreat in Baltimore Maryland in 1913[edit]

I've discovered that my great great grandmother, Sarah Jennie Lynch Landon was confined to Mount Hope Retreat from shortly after the birth of her last child in 1884 until her death in 1913. Her husband predeceased her and she was abandoned by her surviving children shortly after he died. I do have her death certificate, however it does not list any location for burial. So I am assuming that she would have been buried by the Sisters. Can anybody tell me if there still is any cemetery standing that would have been used by Mount Hope Retreat in Baltimore Maryland in 1913. Unfortunately her death certificate does not even list a funeral home so I cannot even search by those records. I have confirmed that she was not buried with her husband in Reisterstown.

I wish I had an answer to your question. However, I live in New York and can only give you advice from afar. My suggestion would be to do some local sleuthing in person. You can go about it two ways. One, you could go to where the institution stood and look at the area and see if you can find a cemetery there yourself. Two, you can contact the local historical society and pose them the question. Ask if they knew where Mount Hope buried their pauper dead. There's a good chance they might know. M-Explorer (talk) 05:45, 21 March 2020 (MDT)

Looking for a great aunt "Maud Hageman" who was at Mendocino hospital.[edit]

She was a school teacher and had a nervous breakdown. She was committed to Talmage in the late 1880's to 1890's.

Thanks Debbie

My grandfather was listed on 1940 census at a patient at Wichita State Hospital in Wichita Falls, Texas[edit]

I am trying to find any information on my grandfather, Lonnie David Jones. He was born in Sherman, Texas on November 20, 1893. He was shown as a patient at the Wichita State Hospital on the 1940 census. His death certificate shows him dying in the hospital on July 22, 1954. Any information is appreciated. Why was he in the hospital? How long was he there? Any relatives listed?

Thank you for taking your time to help. Rebecca Lord (Rebecca_lord@msn.com)

Margaret Koch Fleck committed to Laureano village (Laurelton State Village), a state institution in Laurelton Pennsylvania in 1948[edit]

Her children were put into foster care and one is still alive and seeking information. She was admitted in February / March 1948. I'm trying to figure out when she was released or transferred to the Hollidaysburg State Hospital where she died in 1964.

finding record[edit]

Hello

Does anyone know how to access old information and records from Warren State Hospital. I am interested in a great grandmother named Minnie Cooper Walker, who was there from 1910 to 1940

Charlotte Tucker Gibson St John, NB[edit]

I am looking for my great-great grandmother's lineage. She was born in NB and died 7 Jan 1901 in Saint John, St. John, New Brunswick, in the asylum. She was the wife of William Gibson, and mother to 12 children, including my great grandfather, George H (Oracho) Gibson.

Found my Grandfather in the 1910 Census in St Joseph Ward 2,Buchanan, Missouri, USA[edit]

I am trying to find information on why my Grandfather is shown as a Patient in St. Joseph State Hospital. I understand the State Hospital is closed and wondered if there is a way to get information on why he was there.

Sheryl Peterson