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Scared Stiff
When i was 5 thru 15 my uncle was in the Traverse City Hospital.I was born in 1960.The only haunting in that place is when it was open.My parents would take me and my brother to visit our uncle.I was scared stiff,the screaming and yelling people every where with no one around watching them.The smell in that place gave me nightmares.It was dark and damp.We would go on announced because my uncle would have bruises on him that he said the people that worked there use to beat him up.I had nightmares till i was in my teens from going to that place.I do believe we need these places for our sick and i no that now a days they would watch over the people better.Now our prisons are over filled with the mentally ill and the police are over whelmed every day taken care of the sick.Something must be done.

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employee-- my name is tom --I worked hall 18 then
Quote: Sat 31st 6:53 pm
My name is Bill. I was also a "patient" at TCSH from 1965 thru 1969. I was 15 years old when I went in, and something like 45 when I got out. I will not disclose any names, due to my personal beliefs on privacy, however, I was one of the "big kids" ronl spoke of seeing when he came into Hall 18. I can corroborate most of what he says. I worked the laundry room on the Hall and was the one who handed out clothing and towels after the showers. I was also the one who buffed the floors daily (excepting Sundays, when I sang in the Chapel Choir). One thing he doesn't mention about the shower room is the large concrete "bathtub" which was seldom used, except for punishment "Ice Baths" where a kid would be stripped and held in the tub by a couple of attendants while a "Nurse" would cover him in ice. They would hold the kid in there until he stopped struggling, and the "Nurse" would finally allow him to be removed.

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I was there
I was placed there by a judge around 1978. I was placed there for assessment. At the initial interview the person i talked to declared i had deep depression. I cannot tell you what all they said because at the time i could hear the noises of life in my head more than i could tell you what those was saying around me. I was dealing with a drug problem at the same time as being depressed and although not addicted i would use LSD very often back then. I had attempted suicide as well as having no regard for the law or anyone around me. I am sorry if this sounds somewhat vague or complicated because the memories of it were kind of just that. I have no idea the doctors name i talked to nor what ward i was in other than it seemed to be some sort of admissions for review. I was never abused there at all but i was able to say what they wanted to hear in order to get my way in whatever the case may had been at the time as well as being able to secure my release. The problem with that is the depression never went away. I am 55 now and have never been able to maintain employment. Through the years i went from being very volatile to almost complete withdrawal from society as i am now. I brought up the depression to my doctor and it was almost like he did not believe me. I can put up a good front but every night i go to bed praying that i do not wake up in the morning. Don't get me wrong, i am not suicidal. I just do not care to live. It may seem silly but there is a difference. I am not a danger to anyone nor myself so i guess this isn't serious to anyone but me. I feel that the lack of treatment at this facility has contributed to my feelings that i have today of being worthless and unloved. I have been divorced twice and am now in a relationship that the person i am with expects nothing from me as a man. Trust me that's not good. Anyway.... I guess i need to find out how to obtain these records even though now it is too late for me to get any kind of social security because of my lousy work record. I really don't know what good it would do really other than maybe showing a history of how long i have been this way and why.

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looking for info on Susan
not mentioning full name for security reasons but does anyone remember a susan (sue) from 1980 ? would have been in the fall. Looking to clear up some family questions. Thanks

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I spent nine months there in 1969-1970..looking for old friends from then
My name is Amy. I was 15 when I entered Traverse City State Hospital. I knew Ron. The last I heard, he was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer in November 2016. Hoping he's still alive. He was one bright spot for me there. Loved listening to him sing and play his guitar. We met up again in Muskegon many years later. Now I'd like to hear from him if he's still alive. I'm also looking for a few other girls that were there with me. I won't mention their last names but they were: Dorothy (Dot), Diane, Judy, Belinda and Zola. We were all in the girls building. Any help appreciated. I'd love to reconnect with them. If you have info, email me at childofgod@cox.net

Thanks (and yes, it was like hell there)

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Looking for a patient list from the 1950-1960 any help

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Ron Larson
Quote: Fri 22nd 6:47 pm
I am looking for a Ron Larson that was admitted to this hospital in 1962, I believe. Any help would be appreciated.


Ron died in December 23, 2016, his (birthday) in Florida of stage 4 lung cancer. Finally he's at peace. He was tortured by memories of that place for years after his release. We all have some good memories of that place and some nightmares we'll never forget. It's sort of like the "Hotel California" except you couldn't check out anytime you pleased but.....you could never leave. I saw Ronnie after he was released. We communicated some in 2009 also when we were looking for others who were in the teen and children's buildings in the late 60s. I spent my 16th birthday there. I'd love to get in touch with girls I was close friends with there. Zola Graves, Dorothy (Dot) McKenna, Diane Fetterhoff, Belinda McKernan, Judy and several more girls and boys we went to school with. I worry that many of them got out but couldn't deal with life afterwards. It still haunts me and I was only there 9 months.

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Quote: Thu 20th 2:22 am
Quote: Fri 22nd 6:47 pm
I am looking for a Ron Larson that was admitted to this hospital in 1962, I believe. Any help would be appreciated.


Ron died in December 23, 2016, his (birthday) in Florida of stage 4 lung cancer. Finally he's at peace. He was tortured by memories of that place for years after his release. We all have some good memories of that place and some nightmares we'll never forget. It's sort of like the "Hotel California" except you couldn't check out anytime you pleased but.....you could never leave. I saw Ronnie after he was released. We communicated some in 2009 also when we were looking for others who were in the teen and children's buildings in the late 60s. I spent my 16th birthday there. I'd love to get in touch with girls I was close friends with there. Zola Graves, Dorothy (Dot) McKenna, Diane Fetterhoff, Belinda McKernan, Judy and several more girls and boys we went to school with. I worry that many of them got out but couldn't deal with life afterwards. It still haunts me and I was only there 9 months.


By the way, my name was Amy Nelson. You can contact me at childofgod@cox.net

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Quote:Klarnetisto Fri 8th 6:11 pm
Quote:Thomasp94 Wed 17th 7:02 pm
Message originally posted by Ron on Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:14 pm:

I was a patient of Traverse City State Hospital from 1965 until 1971 as a child.
Read my story at http://www.kirkbridebuildings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=1407&start=0

visit my website at http://www.hall-18.com


My parents-in-law were employees at TCSH for many years, and worked there in the time period you were there.

My daughter's mother was sometimes baby-sat by one of the staff doctors, a friend of her mother. We're trying to locate him, but as my parents-in-law are both dead, we don't know how to find his name.

Was there a doctor of Japanese ancestry at TCSH when you were there, and if so, would you remember his name?

Thank you!


I'm sure there were more than one Dr. there of oriental descent. There was one in 1969 who worked with the young and teenage girls until some of us reported he'd raped and tried to molest the girls. Then the hospital just sent him to be a doctor for adult males I believe in building 50. Hope he's not the one you're looking for. Most likely he's no longer alive.

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Quote:75.129.121.212 Fri 4th 12:24 pm
i really belive bad thimgs happened at that hospital


I can assure you they did!

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Quote: Sun 15th 10:04 pm
Currently looking for info on my grandmother Esther Graham Oswald. Her birthdate is Nov 2, 1919 and death date Aug 13, 2000. My mother refused to talk about her. Rumor was that she was in the Traverse City State Hospital. Not sure how long she was there, IF she was there. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

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Esther Graham Oswalt was my mother and she was in the Traverse City State
She has two surviving daughters. We are looking for any information.My sister visited our mother in the hospital around 1970.

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Esther Graham Oswalt born 1915 was my Mother and I visited here in 1967-8.
Quote: Sat 14th 12:54 am
She has two surviving daughters. We are looking for any information.My sister visited our mother in the hospital around 1970.

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Esther Graham Oswalt
I saw my mother last at the hospital when I was about 19 years old( 1967-1968). She was living in Cottage 13 and I would like to know if anyone out there remembers her. My sister and I were taken away from her after a house fire(about 1952-1953) and adopted out by closed adoption. I would love to have a picture of her as I can hardly remember what she looked like after all these years.

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Roy powers
My mother was florence powers she was admitted to the state hospital when she was 13 for the first time. From then she was admitted several times throughout her life,until it closed. I was born at the state hospital in 1963, not munson. I was taken home by my grandmother becouse my mother was not well enough to leave. I remember as a young child going to visit mom at the state hospital. As years went on my mother had told me about torture,and electrocution they used on her.After the closing she never wanted to live any where near the hospital or even in traverse city.Her nick name in hospital was flo. This hospital was not at all a nice place to be.

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Im looking for information on Martha (Messer) Mothersell she and Ralph mothersell conceived a child while she was a patient and he was (from my understanding) staff there.


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